AFC West Divisional History
Lately, I've been hearing a lot of our divisional rivals mocking us and having no respect for our historic franchise. It is time to take a look at the AFC West and show where our pride and confidence come from.
All-Time Records (including AFL & NFL Playoffs)
Raiders
419-305-11
Broncos
379-335-10
Cheifs
374-326-12
Chargers
336-364-11
It looks like our divisional rivals have a bit of catching up to do here. The Broncos are the closest but are still 40 wins away from catching us in this department.
Divisional Champions
Raiders - Have won the AFC West 14 times and the AFL West 3 times.
Broncos - Have won the AFC West 10 times and never won the AFL West.
Chargers - Have won the AFC West 6 times and AFL West 5 times.
Cheifs - Have won the AFC West 5 times and AFL West twice.
Once again the Broncos are the closet to us but still need to win it four more times to catch up to us. It is interesting to note that the Cheifs have a much better all-time record than the Chargers but have actually won the division less times. They must enjoy finishing second.
Hall of Famers
These numbers only reflect the number of players that actually retired with the team. I decided to go that route so players like Marcus Allen didn't count for two teams.
The Raiders lead the way with 13.
The Cheifs came in a not-so-close second with 7.
The Chargers are nipping at the Cheifs heels with 6.
The Broncos sit at the bottom with a pathetic 1.
We lead the way once again. We have had more memorable players that made more meaningful contributions to the game than our rivals. The Broncos only have one in John Elway. The Cheifs should only have 6 but some difficult situations led to Allen choosing to retire as a Cheif. There are some players upcoming that will change these numbers, most notably Tim Brown who is second or third all-time in nearly every receiving catagory and one of the best Raiders linemen of recent time, Steve Wisnewski.
Super Bowls
Finally, we're to the most important stat of all of them, Super Bowls. This is one that most fans will know about their own teams at the very least.
Raiders
3-2
Broncos
2-4
Cheifs
1-1
Chargers
0-1
Denver may have appeared in more Super Bowls than us but they have won less and have a worse Super Bowl winning percentage. The Cheifs are long removed from a Super Bowl victory and the Chargers have never tasted the sweetness of winning an NFL championship.
Wrap Up
I do realize that we've struggled the last three seasons and finished last in the division in two of those. I also can already hear what a certain Cheifs fan and other haters will be saying. They will say that was all in the past and all that the Raider Nation talks about is the past. They easily forget that we won the AFC West from 2000-2002 and they we are the only AFC West team to appear in a Super Bowl during this millenium.
All-Time Records (including AFL & NFL Playoffs)
Raiders
419-305-11
Broncos
379-335-10
Cheifs
374-326-12
Chargers
336-364-11
It looks like our divisional rivals have a bit of catching up to do here. The Broncos are the closest but are still 40 wins away from catching us in this department.
Divisional Champions
Raiders - Have won the AFC West 14 times and the AFL West 3 times.
Broncos - Have won the AFC West 10 times and never won the AFL West.
Chargers - Have won the AFC West 6 times and AFL West 5 times.
Cheifs - Have won the AFC West 5 times and AFL West twice.
Once again the Broncos are the closet to us but still need to win it four more times to catch up to us. It is interesting to note that the Cheifs have a much better all-time record than the Chargers but have actually won the division less times. They must enjoy finishing second.
Hall of Famers
These numbers only reflect the number of players that actually retired with the team. I decided to go that route so players like Marcus Allen didn't count for two teams.
The Raiders lead the way with 13.
The Cheifs came in a not-so-close second with 7.
The Chargers are nipping at the Cheifs heels with 6.
The Broncos sit at the bottom with a pathetic 1.
We lead the way once again. We have had more memorable players that made more meaningful contributions to the game than our rivals. The Broncos only have one in John Elway. The Cheifs should only have 6 but some difficult situations led to Allen choosing to retire as a Cheif. There are some players upcoming that will change these numbers, most notably Tim Brown who is second or third all-time in nearly every receiving catagory and one of the best Raiders linemen of recent time, Steve Wisnewski.
Super Bowls
Finally, we're to the most important stat of all of them, Super Bowls. This is one that most fans will know about their own teams at the very least.
Raiders
3-2
Broncos
2-4
Cheifs
1-1
Chargers
0-1
Denver may have appeared in more Super Bowls than us but they have won less and have a worse Super Bowl winning percentage. The Cheifs are long removed from a Super Bowl victory and the Chargers have never tasted the sweetness of winning an NFL championship.
Wrap Up
I do realize that we've struggled the last three seasons and finished last in the division in two of those. I also can already hear what a certain Cheifs fan and other haters will be saying. They will say that was all in the past and all that the Raider Nation talks about is the past. They easily forget that we won the AFC West from 2000-2002 and they we are the only AFC West team to appear in a Super Bowl during this millenium.
posted by The Analyzer at 7:45 AM
28 Comments:
Good job Analyzer in outlining the overall history of performance of the AFC West teams.
The old cliche' "The numbers don't lie" seems relevant to this discussion. Any way you slice it, the silver and black comes out on top amongst the divisional rivals.
The Raiders proud tradition, rich history, and the performance numbers, back this up.
As Jim Rome, EXTRA 1150 radio sports personality would say "Scoreboard, b#$th"
I just hate it when the haters ignore the facts. We are historically, the best team in the AFC West. Like you said, "the numbers don't lie."
Nobody is ignoring facts. What do the Raiders sucking now have to do with them being good in the past?...That's right, nothing.
That's like my chubby ass saying I used to be 135 pounds in high school. Even though I weigh 185 now, I'm skinny. It makes just as much sense as what you just posted. It has zero relevance to the Raiders team that is taking the field in '06.
9 and 23 in the last two seasons is horrible. You don't look to be improving much with Brooks. It looks as if the "haters" aren't the ones "ignoring facts".
History books are made to be re-written. I guess we will see how long they can keep themselves at the top.
I am begining to wonder if Randy will stay in Oakland if they have another losing season...
There won't be any more losing seasons for awhile. We will get above .500 for sure this season and will win the division in '07.
We will keep our place in history for quite awhile. Even the Broncos couldn't catch us for some time.
Peachy Bleezy should consider:
1 - Every franchise in the NFL has had periods in their history where their team has played poorly. The Raiders are no exception having played poorly the last 3 years.
2 - What is the measuring stick for a successful team? For a successful year? For a successful franchise history? By most accounts it is in the following order; playoff appearances, divisional titles, SB appearance, SB victories.
3 - Analyzer was outlining the entire history of the AFC West teams not merely who won last year. If he wanted to write about last year alone, then only the Donkeys would be considered successful.
4 - Does the entire history of each team have relevance to the 06 season? No.
The point that was being made is that all the Raider-Haters like to point to recent history (ie. the last 3 years) but their hating is hollow & hypocritical.
What have the Chefs, DisChargers, and Donkeys done the last 6 years that is so noteworthy? A few playoff appearances, a divisional title or 2, and ZERO SB appearances. The Raiders have more playoff appearances (3), divisional titles (3), and SB appearances (1) than any of the other rivals.
The performance of the 4 AFC West teams in this decade and the past 45 years shows a very clear picture. The Raiders have been the most successful franchise. Period.
Here is a history fact for you dreamers out there. Most of the wishers love to bring up the history of Raiders football, truth is, in the last 20 years the Raiders have not been on the NFL map. In fact, they sit close to the bottom of the entire NFL, not in the past 3 years as you guys so laughingly say, but in the last 20 years! I would rather have a team with a winning record, playoff appearences, SB appearences, and SB wins than a team that USED to have them. They have been on a steady but sure decline in the NFL for decades. This year will be no different. Im 22 years old. I was a BABY when the Raiders had a fighting chance. I truely think any good high school team could pull out a close victory on your guys. I bet I could sack your QB. The only one on your team worth a crap is Moss, and he is impotent on your team.
Enjoy another losing season. Cuz you will have another. That, my little well wishers, is a fact!
Are you forgetting we won the division three times and went to a Super Bowl since 2000. No other team in the division has done that in the last 6 seasons.
Here is something you Raider fans should check out. Instead of making yourselves look football illiterate. How bout you go to your closest store with a mag rack, and pick up the most recent football mag. I just picked up the most recent "2006 Pro Football Weekly". Guess you might want to stop by the toilet paper and tissue lane and pick up a box of Kleenex because you will probably be crying in your kool aid as you read the reviews of your pitiful yet beloved team. Your Raider Nation is slowly becoming Raider County. They are close to the lowest ranked team in the NFL. Don’t take my word for it...go check it out.
Superbowl? Playoffs? Yea right. Over 500 is even a stretch.
Awe...not letting people post anymore!? Guess you got tired of the facts being brought to your attention. Look, if you didn't want people to respond to your weak sauce 20 year impotent team remarks, you shouldn’t have made such ludicrous statements.
Thats more like it.
Oh leave analyzer alone. If he wants to think his team is good, let him have that dream. Im heavy and ugly now, but I was hot and athletic in 1996! Kind of the same thing as saying the Raiders used to be good. They are just fat lazy old used to be wannabe champs. Let them talk of the good ol' days. It doesn’t hurt anyone. They can't harm anything! Especially the NFL..LOL!
The Raiders do have winning records all time against all but 3 teams, the ravens, texans, and, yes thats right raiders fans, the third team is the Kansas City Chiefs, who have won 6 straight against the raiders. But ya, the raiders suck now so who cares. the AFC west would be hands down the best division in football if the lowly raiders could amount to a mere 8 win season. However, i don't see that happening. Thanks for bringin' the rest of us down, Oakland.
Bout time someone says it! Not only are they the laughing stock of the AFC but the self proclaimed Nation of the silver and black are completely blind to the last 20 years of suckville. You talk about the 2000-02 seasons? Funny how you forgot to mention why they went all the way....how bout you look at the reasons the other teams did not. Those years were years of rebuilding after retired studs and injured top NFL players plagued the AFC. The Gayders stood on the shoulders of kings to be beheaded by teams way out of their league. You should thank those teams man! They GAVE you an undeserved playoff chance. After that they went from a Super Bowl "pitiful" showing to a 4-12 season! With the SAME PLAYERS! How does that happen you may ask? Could it be UFO's? A presidential pardon? Athletes foot profits buying off the other teams? NOPE! They Sucked those years too, the other teams just didnt have anyone to play that was not injured and so they ended up playing 50% 3d stringers. Don't believe me? Check it yourself their scandalyzer.
Once again I must remind you that we are the only AFC West team to win the division and appear in a Super Bowl in this Millenium. You guys all bash the Raiders but you conveniently leave out 2000-2002.
Do you want a recap?
2000- Lost the AFC CHAMPIONSHIP against Baltimore.
2001- Got snow jobbed by the Patriots in the playoffs
2002- Played in the Superbowl
every team in the NFL goes through a rebuilding period. We are at the end of that period right now.
Take us seriously or you we be disappointed.
It is so funny how you like to pretend that the year 2000 erased the recent past and makes everything fresh and new. You mention the last 5 years like they count more than the last 8. Truth is you went to the super bowl, the broncos won the super bowl a couple years prior...2 in a row in fact! Your team sucks, and no magic year 2000 will erase that. The only reason your team even had a chance was Elway retired and the broncos needed some regrowth after that. Funny how it only took a couple years before they started dominating once again. Get used to the bottom you bottom dweller. Your team is 23d in the league at best.
You think the Broncos are better. Look further back yet and you'll see the Raiders have dominated the division for decades.
The Broncos have been good recently but they will eventually fall out and possibly very soon.
I did the check, your Raiders have not "dominated" as you so inaccurately stated since the 70's and real early 80's. The Broncos in fact have. Better study up on your NFL facts there bud. Don't call yourself a Raider fan and not know the history of your own team...makes ya look bad.
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